(Updated
3/8/01)
KC Rule A42 complaint dismissed
Mrs I Nicol v Mr J Perrie
THE
DISCIPLINARY Sub-Committee (Scotland) met on Friday July 27 at CA House, Edinburgh
to consider the complaint brought by Mrs Isobel Nicol of 2 Hillside Grove, Barrhead,
Glasgow against Mr James Perrie, 2 Bennetwood Terrace, Winchburgh, West Lothian
that he behaved discreditably or prejudicially to the interests of the canine
world in that on the 17th December 2000 at approximately 11.30am at Wishaw
Sports Centre during an open show held by Cambuslang Canine Club during which
Mrs Nicol was awarded Best of Breed, as she left the ring Mr Perrie stood in
front of her in a very aggressive and intimidating manner and for no apparent
reason verbally abused her with foul language. He was so close to her face she
thought he was going to hit her.
The complaint brought by Mrs Nicol was dealt with under KC Rule A42 and the
Disciplinary Sub-Committee comprised Mrs Ann MacDonald, Mrs Irene McManus, Mr
J Aitken Johnston, Mr David Patterson and Rev Jim Peat and was Chaired by Dr
Val Marrian who asked the panel to introduce themselves and declare any interest.
Mrs McManus indicated that she had been at the said show and on being asked
by Mrs Nicol for advice had directed her to the Secretary of the Club. Mr J
Aitken Johnston explained that he was the President of the Scottish Rottweiler
Club and attended committee meetings regularly and that Mrs Nicol was also a
member of this Committee however he declared that at no time had she ever discussed
or mentioned the matter with him.
Dr Marrian opened the hearing by asking Mrs Nicol to describe the incident upon
which Mrs Nicol explained I came out of the ring and I was standing at
the side of the ring having been awarded Best of Breed when he approached and
said thats a f****** joke. He lifted his prize card and kissed
it and said thats a f****** joke, a f****** joke. Youre a
f****** arsehole. I stood shocked and he came back shortly and said I
never called you a f****** arsehole. I might think it but I would never say
it in public.
Dr Marrian then invited the panel to ask questions and Mrs McManus asked Mrs
Nicol if this was a busy show. Was it said in private? to which Mrs Nicol replied
that it was busy, not really private as it was at the exit to the ring. Asked
if it was loud she replied not shouting but loud and the public were aware
of it.
Lucky
Rev Jim Peat asked for details of events on the day and Mrs Nicol explained
that she had been lucky enough to win the first class of the day - the working
puppy class from a big entry. She also won the first of the two Rottweiler classes
with the puppy. Jim Perrie won the Open class and challenged for Best of Breed
with her. Mrs Nicol won Best of Breed with the puppy. She then thanked the judge
and left the ring when Mr Perrie then approached and verbally abused her.
David Patterson asked where this happened and she replied in a busy corner
where there was also access to the back hall which was in use for the show as
well and bordering on the ring itself. And at what time. Mrs Nicol estimated
the time at 10.30ish judging having started with the Working puppy class which
is always busy.
Ann MacDonald asked if Mr Perrie was waiting for her to which she replied when
I came out of the ring he approached me Mrs Macdonald continued was
it his language that you found disturbing or his body language to which
Mrs Nicol replied that his language was usual for him at the ringside but his
body language was what traumatised her since it was so vicious and unexpected
an attack. Asked if she had any doubt in her mind as to the language used Mrs
Nicol replied that she had none whatsoever.
Aitken Johnston enquired that since it had been explained that this was a busy
show how far would this conversation reach and Mrs Nicol explained that people
round about could hear since although he was not shouting his voice was raised.
Dr Marrian asked her you saw him leave the hall, how long till he returned?
He seemed to be back almost at once and waving a first prize card at me.
Mrs McManus asked to go back to what Aitken Johnston and asked about how far
did she think the ringside would hear. Mrs Nicol again replied that several
people around the ringside were aware of the incident.
Mr Perrie was then asked if he would like to question Mrs Nicol and he said
yes and went on One or two of you know me. You do not face two male rotts
together ever as Isobel said. Dr Marrian stopped him and asked him to confine
himself to asking questions of Mrs Nicol. Mr Perrie continued and said I
was taking my dog to the van and said, that was nothing but a farce. Mr Sim
interrupted and explained to Mr Perrie that he would be given a chance to make
his statement in full but to confine himself to questioning Mrs Nicol at present.
Mr Perrie then declined to ask any questions of Mrs Nicol and the first witness
was called in.
Busy
Mr David Roberts from Galashiels explained that he and his wife showed Parson
Russell Terriers and Whippets and on the day in question he had attended the
show and was showing both breeds in hall 2. Between the Terrier and Hound groups
he went to the canteen and on the way through stopped to watch the Best of Breed
being chosen in Rotts. As an exhibitor came out of the ring Mr Perrie approached
waving a place card and saying that was a disgrace what happened in there. You
are nothing but a f****** arsehole. Mrs Nicol asked me to be a witness.
Aitken Johnston asked how busy was it. Mr Roberts replied very busy. It was
a busy area being near the door to the back hall there were lots of people standing
around. Ann Macdonald asked how near it was to the judges table. Mr Roberts
explained that this took place outside the ring. She also asked if he saw Mr
Perrie approach both times. David Patterson also asked if Mr Perrie had approached
Mrs Nicol and Mr Roberts replied Yes - he was quite forceful in making
his way through. Mrs McManus asked how aggressive he was. Mr Roberts replied
that his body language was aggressive. He was fair worked up about it. Rev Peat
continued by saying that Rottweilers are big dogs and asked how they behaved,
Mr Roberts replied that he did not notice them doing anything at all. Dr Marrian
pointed out that Mr Roberts had only mentioned the first part of the incident
in his statement and he replied that he was not clear about when the man came
back. Aitken Johnston asked if there was a fair crowd about to which Mr Roberts
replied yes there were people there - they were all coming out and the next
classes going in. Dr Marrian asked Mr Perrie if he wanted to ask any questions
and he asked Mr Roberts Do you know me? No said Mr Roberts. Mr Perrie
remarked that he had shown for 7 years and had never seen this man at the ringside
before.
Mr Nicol who was acting on behalf of his wife then asked Mr Roberts if this
man had been in the vicinity of the ringside. Mr Roberts confirmed that he had
been. Mr Nicol then asked with emphasis did he have a card in his hand
- this is important Mr Roberts again confirmed that Mr Perrie had a card
in his hand and was waving it in Mrs Nicols face. Finally Mr Nicol asked
if Mr Roberts would classify this as a vicious attack. Mr Roberts said that
it was very aggressive.
Next witness was Miss Lorna Percival who gave her report of the incident that
Isobel came out of the ring and Mr Perrie came up and said that was a joke,
nothing but a joke, went up to Isobel and said you are nothing but a f******
arsehole. He kissed his card and said you are nothing but a f****** arsehole.
He went out and came back and said I might think you are a f****** arsehole
but I would not say it in public.
Clarification
Asked if anything else had happened she said Mrs McCrory and I went to the van.
I was frightened to go on my own and I have been frightened ever since that
he would say something to me. Rev Peat asked that if male dogs were there were
they not upset since their owners were upset. No she replied. Mrs McManus asked
where Mrs Nicol was when it happened. She was at the exit to the ring. How many
steps did he take to her - two. He did not have to come through a crowd - no.
David Patterson asked how busy and was asked how noisy it was. It was quietened
down, when people heard - they went quiet. Mrs Macdonald asked for clarification
of the loudness of voice. Just raised, just to be heard in the noise of the
hall. Mrs Macdonald asked if he said that was a bloody joke are
you sure that was what he said? Miss Percival replied that he said that was
a f****** joke. Aitken Johnston asked how loud Mr Perries voice was when
he made the statement and waved his card. It was aggressive and loud as well.
Dr Marrian brought the subject back to swear words and asked if he had said
you are nothing but a bloody joke. Miss Percival repeated that he had said you
are nothing but a f****** arsehole and he came back and said I might think
you are a f****** arsehole but I would not say it in public. Mr Nicol asked
Lorna Percival if she knew the age of the dog winning Best of Breed and she
replied that is was just a pup. Mr Nicol said exactly, not a full grown male
then. No. He then asked her Did Mr Perrie have a card in his hand - Yes. Are
you sure about this now. Yes I am sure. Mr Perrie was asked if he wanted to
put her through any more.
Mrs Nicols next witness was Mr McStravock from Hamilton. He described
the incident and explained that he was set up behind the ring with his dogs
and was watching the Best of Breed challenge in rottweilers since he shows boxers
and the boxers were next to be judged and he wanted to be ready to got in. He
watched Best of breed, saw Mrs Nicol leaving the ring then Mr Perrie approached
her and said it was nothing but a f****** disgrace and kissed his card. He went
on to say, you are a f****** arsehole. Mr McStravock went and spoke to Bob Cross
who sent a steward over. David Patterson asked who he had approached - He replied
Bob Cross - I know him from the Boxer Club Committee - I thought the incident
was serious enough to come to violence. Asked how long he stayed on at he show
he replied that he had left soon after showing his own dog. David Patterson
asked if this was a topic of discussion at the show to which Mr McStravock replied
I dont know. I never spoke to anyone about it. Ann Macdonald
asked if he had volunteered this statement or had Mrs Nicol asked. I volunteered
it he replied. Rev Peat asked how loud was Mr Perrie - his voice was raised.
Could people hear - yes people round about went silent. Mrs McManus asked how
long the incident took - a couple of minutes. How far away could people hear.
I dont know. Mrs McManus asked again could six people away hear it or
twenty people away hear it - six people he replied. She asked what he had said
to Bob Cross and he told her he had said - Send somebody down there - it could
come to blows. Dr Marrian asked what Mr Perrie said when he was kissing his
first prize card - you are a f****** arsehole. When he reported the incident
to Bob Cross did anyone come to speak to Mr Perrie - No. When Mr Perrie returned
to the hall what did he say? I might think you are a f****** arsehole
but I would not say it in public. Dr Marrian queried that he had not said (f******)
arsehole in his statement so was he now changing this statement? Yes. David
Patterson asked how Mrs Nicol had appeared after this incident - shaken - and
he then asked if anyone had spoken up for her. He said that people were shocked
by this attack. Asked if he was there all the time he replied until I took my
own dog into the ring. I wish I had not been there. Mr Patterson asked if the
dogs were taken to the car but he did not know since he did not know Mrs Nicol
personally. Mr Perrie asked if the witness Boxers were going into the ring as
Rotts were coming out - Yes and how far was the exit - not far. Not so, pointed
out Mr Perrie, if Boxers and Rotts were being shown then there were not too
many people about. Mr McStravock repeated that there were lots of people about.
Mr Nicol asked him to clarify his position in relation to the ring and he explained
he was right behind the ringside near the entrance/exit. He also asked him to
confirm that he had gone and alerted Mr Bob Cross which he confirmed.
Completeing Mrs Nicols witness statements was a signed affidavit sworn
at Paisley on 5th July by Mrs Lyn McCrory who was unable to attend the hearing
since she was on holiday.
Mrs Nicol was asked if that completed her evidence and she affirmed it did so
and she hoped it would make clear the events of the day and that the panel would
consider only the events of the day.
Mr Perrie was asked to comment and said, Its lies, all lies, total lies.
All the people in dog showing know I have never spoken to Mrs Nicol in two years.
I would also like to mention that the dog she shows is from our bitch. Dr Marrian
reminded him that was not relevant in this case. Aitken Johnston asked him if
he had a cage and how far away was it.
Cages
Mr Perrie confirmed he did have a cage and it was about two and half metres
away. On the right were the cages and I went and got the dog onto its walking
lead. Ann Macdonald asked if he left the ring and took the prize card out after
winning the Open Class and he replied that he had not left the ring but did
give the card and rosette to someone outside. He was asked if he left the ring
first after Best of Breed was awarded and he replied Yes. Mrs Nicol
was waiting for her critique. I went straight to my cage for the walking lead.
Ann Macdonald asked if he had approached Mrs Nicol. He denied this. David Patterson
asked if there was a public address system at the show - yes. How well used
was this and Mr Perrie explained that it was used seldom except perhaps for
announcing raffles. How many people were about. Mr Perrie estimated about twenty
and asked by Mr Patterson if he had said anything Mr Perrie said he had said
nothing. He went up to Mrs Nicol and said his exact words were - Excuse me,
I did not call you an arse. I may think you are an arse but I would not say
that in public. It was pointed out that the affidavit said that Mr Perrie was
half drunk. Mr Patterson asked what time was the incident. Mr Perrie said that
someone earlier in the hearing had mentioned a time of 10.30am and he was not
drunk.
Rev Peat asked him if he categorically denied that something took place. Mr
Perrie confirmed that he categorically denied that something took place. Rev
Peat went on to ask that in the running for a big award was he disappointed
not to get Best of Breed. Not really replied Mr Perrie, it is from our bitch.
But did you say something continued Rev Peat. Mr Perrie said no but he had heard
Mrs Nicol asking people if they had heard him call her an arse. Rev Peat again
asked him if he categorically denied saying anything pointing out that in his
statement he had said that as he left the ring he had said that was a farce.
So you did say something. Mr Perrie replied Well yes I said on leaving
the ring that was a farce. Rev Peat pointed out that this contradicted what
the statement said.
After some clarification Dr Marrian ascertained that Mr Perrie did say - that
was a farce. She asked him who notified him that Mrs Nicol had made this statement.
He said that he had heard her himself in the background. Dr Marrian pointed
out that this was not in his statement. David Patterson asked him if he had
heard Mrs Nicol say he waved his card and rosette and asked him if he had done
this and Mr Perrie replied Certainly not. I handed my card and rosette
to Mr John Irvine. Dr Marrian asked if he had taken it back on leaving.
No since Mr Irvine was halfway up the ring. Mr Nicol was asked if he would like
to question Mr Perrie and Mr Nicol thanked Rev Peat for pointing out that Mr
Perrie was the only one saying the incident did not happen. He then asked Mr
Perrie if he was admitting being outside the ring - Of course I was. Mr Nicol
went on by saying that Mr Perrie had said something strange namely that under
some judges you cannot win so does that mean you were aggravated. No but everyone
here knows there are some judges you will never win under. Mr Nicol also said
that Mr Perrie had said that when he left the ring Mrs Perrie was beside him.
Mr Perrie then said that she was outside the ring, she was by the cage only
about eight feet away so yes she was beside him. He took the dog to put on his
walking lead. Mr Nicol asked Mr Perrie if he was saying that his wife was beside
him and that he had no cards or rosette in his hands. That is true.
Opinion
So the independent witnesses are all wrong. Mr Perrie again replied yes there
was no incident as far as I am concerned. Nobody, nobody has ever heard me swear
at a dog show. The first witness for Mr Perrie was his wife Mrs Janet Perrie
who explained that she had attended the show with her husband and exhibited
2 Rotts, the first she handled in the first clas and her husband handled the
other in the open Class. Best of Breed was awarded to Mrs Nicol and her husband
left the ring and on leaving he said what a farce which I believed a comment
on the judging which is only a personal opinion. He left the hall to take the
dogs to the toilet since they had been in the hall from early on and Mrs Nicol
stayed in the ring to speak to the judge. Then we heard Mrs Nicol asking did
anyone hear that man call me an arse. We went to the restaurant for coffee
with a few friends. My husband was with me the whole time. Mrs McManus asked
if he had approached Mrs Nicol at any time after this and she replied Yes -
to say he had not called her an arse. He might have thought it but would not
say it in public. We did not hear her say but several people told us she was
saying this. Mrs McManus asked who the farce comment was directed
at. No one, it was a general comment not directed at anyone. So he did say it
asked Mrs McManus. Yes but only as a general comment. So that was the end of
the incident. Yes. It was Christmas time so we had other more important things
to do. We left before the group judging was done. Aitken Johnston queried that
Mr Perrie had never sworn at a dog show. Yes she replied and he would never
swear at a woman. Believe me I know. I have been married to him for 29 years
and I have given him plenty of chances to swear at me but he just would not
do that to a woman. Ann Macdonald asked where the prize card was - Mr Irvine
had it - and where were you - outside the ring. Where was your husband by this
time. Out with the dogs. Where was Mrs Nicol - at the opposite side of the entrance
to the ring. When your husband came back did he have the dogs with him - no.
David Patterson asked When your husband came out was he disturbed about not
winning - no not at all. What did he do - He came out and changed the dog lead
and took the dogs out. Were there many people about - a fair amount. Were people
having to push past with their dogs - yes. Was it a busy show - early on yes.
Did you have to raise your voice to speak - not really. Could you hear what
was being said at the stewards table. He was busy with entries at the
time. What was your husbands reactions to Mrs Nicols accusations.
He was annoyed yes and upset. Mr Patterson pointed out that Mrs Perrie had said
in her statement that her husband had left the ring and went to the cages to
change leads and take the dogs out so was outside when Mrs Nicol was speaking
so who told him. Mrs Perrie replied that she did not hear anyone speak to him.
When Mrs Nicol came out of the ring Jim was going out of the hall. So you cant
tell us who informed him. Yes I can - Mrs Flowers, Mrs Bone and Mr Irvine. Mrs
McManus asked her if after coffee had she seen Mrs Nicol at any time but she
had not. Aitken Johnston asked if she was aware of boxers going into the ring.
She said she was aware of boxers there. She was also asked that when Mr Perrie
came back in what was his manner. She replied Bemused, totally bemused. And
asked again was this totally out of character, she replied yes totally, he would
not do something like this. Mr Nicol asked her if she was aware of her husband
being under the influence. No, we had been to a staff function the night before
due to the time of the year but we had left home at 8 in the morning.
Conversation
Mr Nicol went on to ask that was she saying that when Mr Perrie left the ring
Mrs Nicol was in the ring having a conversation with the judge. Mr Perrie went
and changed leads and took the dogs out in this time. Was this not a very long
conversation then remembering that boxers were waiting to come into the ring.
Mrs Perrie replied Yes it was a long conversation. Mr Nichol asked her if she
would agree that her husband said the judging was a farce. No he said its
a farce On a point of fact Dr Marrian mentioned that in her statement
she had said the judging was a farce. Mrs Perrie said she thought
the remark referred to the judging but her husband just meant - Its a
farce.
Next witness for Mr Perrie was Mr John Irvine from Winchburgh who stated - I
was at the show with my Bernese and I was watching Mr Perrie with the Rottie.
He won and came out the ring with the card and rosette and said hang on to that
for me. When judging was finished he came out and said that was a farce. Mrs
McManus asked him where he was standing. I was at the left hand side of the
ring. She asked him to describe Mr Perries statement and was it quiet,
aggressive or what. He replied nothing particular he just spoke to me and said
that was a farce. In the manner he spoke would anyone else have heard it. Not
really. In the manner it was said would it have caused offence or upset to anyone.
No. It is often said at the rings. I have only been showing for eighteen months
and I have heard it said often. Rev Peat asked if he saw Mr Perrie come back
in and speak to her. No we were having a smoke. You did not see him approach
her. No when he came back in he came to me. David Patterson continued and said
you have only been showing eighteen months so have you seen upset behaviour.
Yes. Have you heard bad language. Yes but only between conversations. Where
was Mrs Perrie standing. I dont know - I was standing by myself. Where
was Mrs Nicol. Dont know. Were you with Mr Perrie the whole time outside.
Yes we were having a smoke. Did you go back into the hall together. No I went
for my dog and when he came back in I thought he came straight to me. Aitken
Johnston asked if the hall was busy. Well yes it was quite busy. Dr Marrian
said she was confused and was he telling us today when Jim Perrie came out of
the ring he was saying farce. Yes and then you went to the cage.
Yes I went to put the card and rosette into Mr Perries bag then went out
for a smoke. Dr Marrian repeated what he said and asked if he had gone out for
a cigarette. Yes probably two. Mrs Nicol was still in the ring - yes she was.
When I turned to look for Mr Perrie I saw her leave and heard her say did
anyone hear that man call me an arse. Dr Marrian asked if Mr Perrie was
still outside when Mr Irvine returned to the hall. Yes I think he was. So how
long was it before he came back in. About five - ten minutes. Mr Nicol asked
where Mr Irvine was at the ringside. At the entrance. Mr Nicol said that Mr
Perrie had said he was halfway up. A discussion then followed on his actual
position.
The next witness for Mr Perrie was Mrs Val Flowers of Linlithgow who said she
had come along to the show although not showing her usual breed of cockers but
came to see the judging since she has Rottweiler puppies. She chatted to several
people then went back to the ring in time to see Best of Breed. She certainly
did not hear Mr Perrie say anything except What a farce. Rev Peat asked if he
had a prize card. No he had handed it to Mr Irvine. Did Mrs Nicol leave the
ring at the same time. No she was having her critique done but left after that.
Was Mr Perrie still in the hall at that time. Yes. Mrs McManus asked her how
long she stayed and was told about fifteen minutes after the Rott judging was
complete. Was she aware that Mr Perrie had left the hall. No she was wandering
round chatting. David Patterson asked her exactly where she was at the time
of Best of Breed and she indicated. He asked if she was at the front. No behind.
Was this a busy show - yes. When Mr Perrie left the ringside who went first
but she did not know saying she did not know the Rottie people. Ann Macdonald
said I assume you know Mrs Nicol. Yes I would recognize her. So did you see
Mr Perrie speak to her at all. No not at all. Aitken Johnston asked if she had
seen the judging up to Best of Breed and how long after had she left the ringside.
Yes she had seen the judging and left just a couple of minutes later. Mr Nichol
did not ask any questions.
Final witness for Mr Perrie was Mrs Debbie Bone of Holytown who told the hearing
that basically I was standing at the opening to the ring watching Rottweiler
Open Class and Mr Perrie show his dog. He came out and handed the rosette to
John, went right back in again for Best of Breed. Mrs Nicols pup was playing
up as puppies do and she was becoming annoyed with it. Mr Perries dog
was standing well and showing. Mrs Nicol got Best of Breed. Mr Perrie came out
and said to John thats a farce. I think Mrs Nicol must have misheard the
statement and thought he called her an arse. He came back to her and said he
had not called her an arse. When asked how far away she was from Mr Perrie she
replied about three feet. Aitken Johnston asked how long it was till Mrs Nicol
left the ring. About one minute.
Altercation
Ann Macdonald asked where Mr Perrie was. As far as I was aware he was in the
ring. Mrs Macdonald continued by asking if Mrs Bone was saying he was in the
ring and she replied no they were together for Best of Breed and then he came
out first. Asked how much time there was in between Mr Perrie coming back she
replied I dont think there was much time in between. He was just collecting
his prize card from John. Where you aware of anything happening at the ringside.
No. Was Mr Perrie annoyed. We are all annoyed if we get beaten. Mrs McManus
commented that Mrs Bone had said in her statement that Mrs Nicol approached
her over this altercation. Mrs Bone replied that it was not at this show. David
Patterson asked what was the altercation. It was this incident. When Mrs Bone
was standing at the ringside where was Mr Perrie. He was at the ringside. Basically
I saw Mr Perrie go in the ring, go in for Best of Breed, come out and leave
the show. Rev Peat asked where Mrs Nicol was. In the ring. He asked if she clearly
recollected if they were outside the ring together. She replied, no they were
outside the ring together and speaking. Asked if she heard the conversation
she replied that the only conversation she heard was Jim say Its a farce
and then he came back to explain. Mrs McManus asked her to clarify what she
meant when she said that Mrs Nicol had approached over the incident. Mrs Bone
explained that Mrs Nicol was at a show the following week and approached me
to ask if I had heard what he said and I said that was not what I had heard.
Mrs McManus pointed out that from Mrs Bones written statement Mrs Nicol
had appeared to be trying to put her version of events to Mrs Bone who said
no. Dr Marrian asked her to clarify how long it was before Mr Perrie came back
and spoke to Mrs Nicol. About one minute. Asked if he left the hall, did he
go to the dogs she said she thought he left with John (Mr Irvine). Mr Nicol
asked her if she was showing under Mrs Ramsey and who won the class. She confirmed
that she was showing and that Mrs Nicol won the class. He went on and said that
she had stated that Mrs Nicols dog would not stand or behave and Mrs Nicol
was becoming frustrated. She replied that that was her opinion of the judging
that day. Mr Perrie was asked if he wanted to say anything and asked to read
out a statement from Mr Dick Morrison, a well known judge, Chairman and steward
in the ring that day who was unable to attend since he was in Sweden. To whom
it may concern. I am writing in relation to the statement made by Mrs Nicol
in relation to Mr Perrie. The latter approached me on the seventeenth of February
at Irvine. At about approximately 11.30 am at Cambuslang Canine Club. I was
stewarding for Mrs Ramsey in the Working and Pastoral Groups. There was more
than one class of Rottweilers and Mr Perrie handled in one of these classes.
At no time did he make a remark or gesture or grimace. They were both at close
promixity in the ring. The table was in proximity and at no time was I or the
judge aware of any incident. I have known both parties as fellow exhibitors
and Mr Perrie for coming to the local ringcraft. I am aware of ill feeling between
the two parties but at my own show (West Lothian) I have never had cause to
hear any complaint of them or worry over them. I hope this allows the panel
to reach a sensible conclusion.
This completed the evidence and the panel convened to deliberate and at 3.40
pm the panel returned with the following verdict. That having considered the
evidence from the complainant and the respondent, the Committee has concluded
that the complainant has not established that the respondent conducted himself
in a manner discreditable or prejudicial to the interest of the canine world.
While the evidence offered by witnesses from each side was consistent, the opposing
versions of the alleged incident were totally different.
Mrs Nicol and her witnesses alleged that, as she left the ring, Mr Perrie stood
in front of her in a very aggressive and intimidating manner and for no apparent
reason verbally abused her with foul language. Mr Perrie and his witnesses maintainted
that he had made an inoffensive passing comment in relation to the judging not
directed at anyone in particular as he left the ring and that Mrs Nicol was
still in the ring at the time. In conclusion, therefore the Committee has decided
that the complaint brought by Mrs Nicol under CK rule A42 is not upheld.
Conclusion
The commitee have considered the complaint brought by Mrs I Nicol, 2 Hillside
Grove, Barrhead, Glasgow. G78 1HB against Mr J Perrie 2 Bennetwood Terrace,
Winchburgh, West Lothian. EH52 6TR namely that he behaved discreditably or prejudicially
to the interests of the canine world in that on 17th December 2000 at
approximately 11.30am at Wishaw Sports Centre duing an open show held by Cambuslang
CS, Mrs Nicol was awarded Best of Breed. As she left the ring Mr Perrie stood
in front of her in a very aggressive and intimidating manner and for no apparent
reason verbally abused her with foul language. He was so close to her face she
thought he was going to hit her.
Having thoroughly considered the evidence from the complainant and respondent,
the commitee has concluded that the complaint has not established that the respondent
conducted himself in a manner discreditable or prejudicial to the interests
of the canine world.
While the evidence offered by witnesses from each side was consistent, the opposing
versions of the alleged incident were totally different.
Mrs Nicol and her witnesses alleged that, as she left the ring, Mr Perrie stood
in front of her in a very aggressive manner and for no apparent reason verbally
abused her with foul language. Mr Perrie and his witnesses maintained that he
made an inoffensive passing comment in relation to the judging, not directed
at anyone in particular as he left the ring and that Mrs Nicol was still in
the ring at the time.
In conclusion, therefore, the commitee has decided that the complaint brought
by Mrs Nicol under Kennel Club Rule A42 is not upheld.
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