Bent judges: (Part 3) the debate continues
Is it fair to say that the Kennel Club is not doing enough to prevent 'bent' judging?
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Fact or fiction?
Following our leading feature article, we have been inundated with comments and responses from readers.
We feature here some longer statements made either by letter or in our breed notes.
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am delighted that Our Dogs has highlighted the judging issue,
but I am of the opinion that most poor judging is the result
of insufficient knowledge or peer pressure, rather than twenty
pound notes handed over behind the benching tent. The recent
comment of someone whose opinion I value very highly is indicative
of the problem. They inform me that in discussions with top
judges you seldom hear the detail of why one dog is better
than another or a discussion of its good points. Rather, when
asked why they put a particular dog up they respond with,
'Well, its done a lot of winning'.
Nothing has changed
I been asleep for twenty five years?
II would just like to say yes, I do believe judges are bent. I dont think I have yet been to a dog show where we - the other exhibitors - are not told who is to get the tickets on the day. 9 out of 10 times is proved to be the case, one can place the dogs before you even go in the ring. the columnists wonder why the entries for shows are decreasing like they are.
People get fed up of spending hard earned money for nothing.
I am replying about bent judges, and yes, they do exist - and plenty of them. I attended an open show a few weeks back with my staffords. before going in the ring i was told not to hope for much as the gentleman who was sitting next to me would get first in the puppy class. Into the class we all went, 9 of us all together, and low and behold said puppy got first. i was placed 4th and my bitchs litter sister second. We stayed to watch the rest of the judging and said puppy got best pup and best of breed.
Although i did well in the placings was a bit miffed. Then a few weeks later it all started to ring true. upon attending a breed champ show, the dog concerned was next to me with its owner and... the judge that gave it best pup and best of breed! They were sitting watching the judging and said judge walked in the class with said pup, i was told they quite often handle the bitch, well? say no more! are judges bent, yes! Its such a pity to other people who pay their money and expect a fare chance best regards
There is and always has been a majority of dog judges who are, as you call it, 'bent' in their judging.
Most do it to gain further judging appointments by favouring committee members, including Show Secretaries. Using the old saying "You scratch my back and i'll scratch yours".
Maggie Down and myself are no longer invited to judge our favourite breeds, because we flatly refuse to 'scratch' the backs of the 'right people' nod nod - wink wink!
Bruce MacDonald, Cheney Great Danes
National Great Dane Helpline
These days, one can hardly pick up any dog magazine without reading of complaints regarding falling entries at shows, frequently blaming judging standards as the root cause.
Although I am rarely in the ring myself, I do attend a fair number of shows in the capacity of carrier of cages, bags and other bits and bobs for my wife, and as such am usually at the ringside watching what goes on.
Yes, there is favouritism. We will all have seen it, but it is a thing which would be very difficult to prove. There is incompetence. Maybe not so hard to prove, but who complains to the show secretary? Not many! Then there are the judges who are both competent and honest. Sadly, not many.
Speaking as a bystander I will say that poor judging is definitely one of the causes of falling entry numbers. We all know that the judges decision is final, and no one minds being beaten by a better dog. But it is a bitter pill to swallow when the rosettes are given to rubbish because of dishonesty and incompetence.
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